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    Filed Under ( General Info ) by admin on 17-01-2009

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    goHtaI321 asked:


    Hello, I want to spice up my fish tank with some Cichlids.

    Are there any that can leave relatively peacefully in my tank?

    I have a 40 gallon tank with a pH around 7.

    The inhabitants are:
    1 albino cory
    1 black ghost knife
    6 clown loaches
    4 mollys
    2 danios
    5 tetras
    1 pleco

    Thanks for any information/suggestions.

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    g_man on January 20th, 2009 at 11:01 am

    Try a pair of Ramirez’s,they are small,pretty, and non aggressive.


    copperhead on January 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 am

    You’re eventually going to need a larger tank because of the adult size of the clown loaches and ghost knife. Maybe the pleco as well, depending on what type you have.

    Some cichlids you might want to look at are rams Apistogrammas, and Kribensis.
    See these links for some photos and care info:


    Ianab on January 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Kribensis can live peacefully with those fish. They are a lot hardier than the rams and many other apisto species.

    You are going to have to upgrade your tank at some stage though. BGKs grow big, and are nocturnal stealth hunters. Small tetras have a habit of disapearing when kept with a large ghost knife.

    The pleco will probably outgrow the tank first, the clown loaches will take years.

    Ian


    freshbliss on January 27th, 2009 at 7:24 am

    I like bolivian and german rams….they stay small, and they are adorable….ok, to me they are adorable. They flick that little mohawk fin and I turn to mush


    Ashana on January 30th, 2009 at 5:46 am

    I personally would not add anything else to your tank.
    Cichlids are cichlids and even the peaceful cichlids are only peaceful compared to others in the cichlid family.
    Your black ghost knife will probably get to big for the tetras and danios and they will vanish once the BGK gets bigger.
    BGK have a hinged mouth which means they can open their mouth rather wide and can devour small bodied fish.

    If you really want to add something else possibly look at investing in more cory’s as these fish prefer to live in groups of 4 or more.


    BrandonM on February 2nd, 2009 at 6:30 am

    yup. There are quite a few that can live in there. It really depends on your level of expertise and what type of tetras you have in there.

    Most of the Apistogrammas would be okay in there (they can be very difficult to keep though)
    Mikrogeophagus Ramirez (Blue Ram) would work just fine, but they’re next to impossible to keep unless you get the German strain or a Wild Caught strain.
    Kribensis
    Angelfish
    Bolivian Rams
    Brichardi
    Orange Chromide (they like some salt in their water though)
    Festivum
    Keyhole Cichlid
    Blue Acara
    Uaru
    Discus

    Some of those like the Blue Acara and the Uaru can get to be upwards of 10″, so they’ll probably be crowding that tank out, but they’ll work. Research before you buy though.


    thatfishchick on February 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Yeah, I probably wouldn’t add much more to there as those clown loaches are going to grow, and they can get rather large. Same with the pleco (if you have a common pleco expect 12-14″ easy, if you have bristlenose expect about 6-7″ ish, and so on) and the ghost knife. In addition to that, ghost knifes can be quite shy and nervous in nature and are sometimes best left to a species tank. If I were in your shoes, I would really contemplate a larger tank before adding anything else.

    When contemplating adding cichlids, you really want to think about your water chemistry before deciding. Most cichlids can adapt to different water chemistry, but they won’t show as nice of colors (which really is the reason for investing time and money into cichlids!). Looking at your fish, your most likely compromising for the black molly, as they tend to prefer slightly brackish and slightly basic water. Everything else will prefer softer and more acidic water. This is really going to give you your optimal range for cichlid choices just by narrowing it down. See, South American cichlids and African RIVER (important word) cichlids, will both prefer water leaning towards that nature. African cichlids prefer a much higher pH with harder water (8.0 to 8.3 for Malawi/Victoria specimens and even up to 9ish for Tanganykan cichlids). Aside from that, you should look at smaller growing fish with a more passive nature to stick with fish that won’t eat or attack your smaller fish.

    On those notes, stick with rams, apistogrammas, and kribensis if you must insist on adding any other fish to your tank (although, like I already said, I really wouldn’t add anything else and would be contemplating a larger tank instead of more fish). They’re rather small as per cichlids are concerned, and you’ll generally only see rams and apistos show aggression between two males (often just displays). The only other aggression you might see would be the opportunistic nature of any of these three types of fish to pick off molly fry (hey, it’s a high protein snack!). Otherwise, your neons and danios would make excellent dither fish for both the rams and apistos, as they can sometimes be more skittish.

    I would have to recommend, in addition to the rift lake cichlids, you steer clear of discus and angels. Were your tank not so heavily stocked already, I could possibly recommend one or two, but not with how large your fish are going to get. Angels also have a nasty tendancy to eat smaller fish and tetras (like the neons so often suggested as companions and otos)


    stargrazer on February 4th, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Some apistogramma species would do well, along with the kribensis. Also some of the smaller South American cichlids such as the Aequidens dorsigera or curviceps or pulcher and the west African Butterfly cichlid would be ok.


    T.J. on February 7th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    Try a pair of keyhole chiclids. (they are Beautiful fish)


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