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    Filed Under ( Fish ) by admin on 17-07-2009

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    SRealz asked:

    I want to get Malawi Cichlids but I was wondering if they can live together in the same tank as Angelfishes and a Iridescent Shark?
    Thanks for all the answers guys it really helped and I appreciate it.

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    ZooTycoonMaster on July 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Nope. They both have different water requirements (pH, water hardness, etc.) except for the ID Shark, that’s pretty hardy.

    Malawi Cichlids need hard, alkaline water, (preferably 8.0-8.2 pH), and Angelfish need soft, acidic water. ID Sharks, like I said, they’re really hardy.

    Btw, the ID Shark grows up to 3 1/2 feet. Do you have a REALLY big tank you plan to re-house it to?

    E-mail me for any questions!


    cc_woman on July 19th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Some of them might be able to live with an ID shark, but I do not highly recommend it. It is a definite no with angels. They are far too fast moving and aggressive for angels. You can house other peaceful africans like kribensis with angels.

    Edit: Oh come on Aiii, angels are in fact a type of cichlid. And my angels actually live with mostly other cichlids. Sharks can also be housed with cichlids, but it depends on the type of cichlid. Never listen to a website made by petco or any other chain store, they don’t know what they are talking about half the time.


    Aiii Ya on July 21st, 2009 at 1:00 am

    No, they cannot live together. Any kind of cichlids won’t be compatible with your angelfish and shark according to this chart:


    JW on July 21st, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    no, not just because the water conditions are different, but because the malawi would kill them.


    TopPotts on July 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    No. Most AC are highly aggressive and would demolish the angels in no time. Probably the shark, as well.

    Ooh, I just HAD to save that chart from Aiii Ya’s answer. I should be able to make a few jokes about it. Definitely get a few laughs. Maybe make a few, or maybe a lot, of changes for accuracy. Ha-ha!


    Jon V on July 26th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    I agree with both Zoo and CC. Not often have CC and I not agreed actually. In find her input to be something you should listen to.

    Water chemistry is far more important then one of your posters want to admit. While many of your tropical fish, including Africans and South Americans can adapt to different water chemistry, IT IS NOT ADVISED TO DO IT. It’s the same thing like saying, well, you can breath in some second hand smoke because it doesn’t always produce or cause cancer, and it’s got some oxygen in it. These fish you are talking about evolve and thrive in waters, and nature made it that way for whatever reason. It’s only mankinds stupidity or ego to try to force them to live in different conditions. I think the fish keeper should be responsible to keep the proper conditions and get the best from your stock.

    In most cases, the aggression factor that CC is talking about comes into play. There are times when things can work out for the good just like the lady said too. In larger tanks this CAN possibly work. It depends on what types of Malawis you are talking about. I’m just waiting for the other guy to put his foot in his mouth again here, because yes, there are Malawi Haps, not just Mbuna only. Haps are more open water types. These would not mix very well with your Angels. Mbuna have a better chance because they are substrate and rock dwellers, and tend to stay lower in the tank, the upper level Angels. So if you have a tank with enough height to it, you can work angels and mbuna into a scheme and have it do very well actually. It’s not going to work for every tank though.

    And as you asked about the ID shark in another question, you need to listen to Zoo on that. That is a 3-4 foot adult fish when grown. I think your pet store pooched you good selling you that. To put in a tank, you’re talking like a 700 gallon tank to keep it and have room for it to actually move around when it’s full grown.

    All in all, I’d advise against keeping Africans, both Mbuna or Haps with Angels, since this does appear to be your first experience with them. Like CC also said, you can also try, if you really are set on this, the Kribs, Apisto’s would be better though, same water needs as the Angels, or possibly like Electric Yellow Labs.


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